tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post687677855040449481..comments2023-10-11T10:57:26.122-04:00Comments on Gil The Jenius: 33.1% Statehood = NothingGCSchmidthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07735900094879466498noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-9576507054645589662012-11-09T05:51:02.303-04:002012-11-09T05:51:02.303-04:00Anonymous. Blanks count when they are significant...Anonymous. Blanks count when they are significant quantities. Retraimiento is a legitimate strategy used in spain or in argentina. Wasnt none of the above the pre vious victor?<br />In short pnp strategies was to get the no plus get the 'majority' of the three options since he knee blanks and soberanos would split.<br />Then go and say we were ratified twice. Dont mind the maggots for you see...blanks dont count...<br />Ratified indeed...ratified indeed...by the rats rotting ferre's legacy.Beatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04061547910120363116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-69656970783870993812012-11-09T04:09:21.818-04:002012-11-09T04:09:21.818-04:00Blank votes =/= secret votes for whatever position...Blank votes =/= secret votes for whatever position you like. In most democratic countries, not voting means you don't count. Not here, though. Puerto Rico lo hace mejor!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-51312885766710308042012-11-08T20:15:20.293-04:002012-11-08T20:15:20.293-04:00Kofla, A+ again to you. And Anonymous, blank votes...Kofla, A+ again to you. And Anonymous, blank votes shouldn;t count, but "half-blank" votes should.<br /><br />Apropos of My post, We're now starting to see national media focus on the "Puerto Rico requests statehood" issue (not because of Me, I assure you). Some outlets are following the local lie machine (60+% for statehood bullshit) while the more sober, smarter crowd is weighing the numbers properly (statehood getting about 45% of the vote.)<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/puerto-rico-state-reasons-will-not-become-51st-state_n_2095366.html<br /><br />I've even seen a tweet about "demanding change now" by petitioning Congress to consider statehood for Puerto Rico. Puh. Leez. Congress would rather consider forced coffee enemas. As I tweeted in reply: "114 years and counting..."GCSchmidthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735900094879466498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-40182749105654327612012-11-08T16:49:56.581-04:002012-11-08T16:49:56.581-04:00blank votes can't be counted. That is ridicul...blank votes can't be counted. That is ridiculous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-78393801762787622112012-11-08T14:38:47.778-04:002012-11-08T14:38:47.778-04:00The plebiscite is an exercise in futility. We will...The plebiscite is an exercise in futility. We will be a colony until Uncle Sam can't exploit our resources anymore, they will then pack their bags and sayonara. I am sure by then we will be sending a delegation to China or another country where we can continue our "mantengo" lifestyle.Kofla Olivierihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09020407690818662882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-35405389561219593752012-11-08T10:40:37.379-04:002012-11-08T10:40:37.379-04:00David, thanks. It does seem evident that the plebi...David, thanks. It does seem evident that the plebiscite was meant to "buy" votes for The Larva and just as evident that, once again, statehood failed to make any sort of relevant case that could come close to convincing Congress that We want it.GCSchmidthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735900094879466498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-17852786930395718182012-11-08T05:30:41.098-04:002012-11-08T05:30:41.098-04:00This was done for the sole reason of dragging peop...This was done for the sole reason of dragging people to vote for the Larva. People in the mainland won't be fooled by this charade. Intelligent people in Puerto Rico will diss this as well, but then the larva's acolytes and those who will welcome el MesÃas 2.0 who'll sacrifice his research job for us (wink!) need something to hang on to. They'll remind us the next 4 years, completely ignoring what your previous entry states. The show must go on.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16386042076830978876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-434611565664590372012-11-07T23:45:43.494-04:002012-11-07T23:45:43.494-04:00The comments above are right.
The number of votes...The comments above are right.<br /><br />The number of votes in the Yes/No question are the same as the ones in the Statehood/ELA Soberano/Blank/Independence one.<br /><br />Blank voting here means that none of the 3 options in the 2nd question were voted, meaning support for the normal ELA.Carlosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-83781586845970406092012-11-07T19:11:39.278-04:002012-11-07T19:11:39.278-04:00I did an analysis earlier today with CEEPUR data. ...I did an analysis earlier today with CEEPUR data. STOP! Hammertime:<br /><br />Statehood 802179 votes.<br />ELA Soberano 436997 votes, blank votes 468478 votes<br />independence 72551 votes<br /><br />o sease:<br />45.2 % statehood<br />51 % ela options<br />4.1 % independence<br /><br />ELAsoberano + Blanks = 905475 votes<br /><br />Then the Y/N/blanks from the 1st question:<br />934238 said no<br />796007 said yes<br /><br />but then<br />796007 + 64123 blank + 12720 no adjudicado = 872850 votes.<br /><br />905475 - 872850 = 32625 votes were blanks from those who said NO.<br /><br />These blank ballots are sending a message and it is "NONE OF THE ABOVE"<br /><br />But we are analyzing too much on this customer satisfaction survey.<br /><br />Another plebiscite laid to be forgotten... Beatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04061547910120363116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-42765252359292968572012-11-07T18:56:34.459-04:002012-11-07T18:56:34.459-04:001,730,245 people voted in the 1st question. In the...1,730,245 people voted in the 1st question. In the second question, 802,179 voted for statehood. Therefore you need to divide 802,179 by 1,730,245 to get the % of voters that wanted statehood. which equals ~46%. You can't used the % numbers to multiply/dive, you need to use the hard numbers. Your math is off. Brian is correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-64617252084940423242012-11-07T12:41:22.144-04:002012-11-07T12:41:22.144-04:00Thanks for commenting, Brian.
At 12:27 PM, the p...Thanks for commenting, Brian. <br /><br />At 12:27 PM, the percentage vote in the Yes/No level showed a 53.99% "No" tally. I rounded it up to 54% earlier today and that still holds.<br /><br />http://www.ceepur.org/REYDI_NocheDelEvento/index.html#es/default/CONDICION_POLITICA_TERRITORIAL_ACTUAL_ISLA.xml<br /><br />Under "Non-Territory Options," which includes statehood, independence and "sovereign commonwealth," statehood had received 61.15% of the "No" vote. I had a 61.3% figure from earlier in the day, so this result actually drops Us into almost exactly 33%, not 33.1%.<br /><br />http://www.ceepur.org/REYDI_NocheDelEvento/index.html#es/default/OPCIONES_NO_TERRITORIALES_ISLA.xml<br /><br />My reasoning and numbers stand. The "Yes" vote represents not only an acceptance of the colonial status, but obviously a rejection of statehood. And of the "Yes" vote, over 38% of those voters rejected statehood. The ONLY vote count for statehood is the "Yes"/statehood herd, defined by (53.99% X 61.15% = 33.01%) of all votes cast.<br /><br />I should add a zero to My post title, really...<br /><br />And the absolute number of ANY option (Yes/No and Non-Territorial) is further reduced by the number of blank ballots, which at 12:27 PM stood at 468,478. With 1,311,727 ballots cast, 468,478 blank represent 26.3% of the total voter group who didn't care or actively chose to not vote in this plebiscite. Their blank ballots can be seen as indifference, rejection or cynicism, but they must be factored in when weighing further decisions based on any result.<br /><br /> GCSchmidthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735900094879466498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11569206.post-18368430832319311962012-11-07T12:13:21.540-04:002012-11-07T12:13:21.540-04:00Looking at the actual numbers on the ceepur.org no...Looking at the actual numbers on the ceepur.org not sure your 31% figure is correct<br /><br />per the 2nd ?<br /><br />1,311,727 voters answered that ?<br /><br />number that voted for Governor was 1,740,366 - so not everyone voted for the second ? (about 25% did not vote)<br /><br />but <br /><br />802,179 voted for Statehood which = 46% which is a little higher than 31% - still not a majority granted but higher than the other optionsBriannoreply@blogger.com